{"id":2042,"date":"2014-06-18T13:28:29","date_gmt":"2014-06-18T18:28:29","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/napervilledemocrats.org\/ntdo\/?p=2042"},"modified":"2014-06-18T13:31:43","modified_gmt":"2014-06-18T18:31:43","slug":"more-on-iraq-how-we-got-here-and-who-not-to-listen-to","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/napervilledemocrats.org\/ntdo\/more-on-iraq-how-we-got-here-and-who-not-to-listen-to\/","title":{"rendered":"More on Iraq: How We Got Here and Who (Not) to Listen To"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Apropos of the other\u00a0day&#8217;s posting about <a href=\"http:\/\/napervilledemocrats.org\/ntdo\/waldman-on-iraq-lets-ignore-those-who-got-it-all-wrong\/\">ignoring those who have proven so worthy of being ignored<\/a>, here is a little more on Iraq.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.newyorker.com\/online\/blogs\/comment\/2014\/06\/isis-savage-strategy-in-iraq.html\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"2043\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/napervilledemocrats.org\/ntdo\/more-on-iraq-how-we-got-here-and-who-not-to-listen-to\/ap889260454190-580\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/napervilledemocrats.org\/ntdo\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/06\/AP889260454190-580.jpg?fit=580%2C326&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"580,326\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;AP2014&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"AP889260454190-580\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/napervilledemocrats.org\/ntdo\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/06\/AP889260454190-580.jpg?fit=580%2C326&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignright wp-image-2043 size-medium\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/napervilledemocrats.org\/ntdo\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/06\/AP889260454190-580-300x168.jpg?resize=300%2C168\" alt=\"AP889260454190-580\" width=\"300\" height=\"168\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/napervilledemocrats.org\/ntdo\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/06\/AP889260454190-580.jpg?resize=300%2C168&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/napervilledemocrats.org\/ntdo\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/06\/AP889260454190-580.jpg?resize=550%2C309&amp;ssl=1 550w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/napervilledemocrats.org\/ntdo\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/06\/AP889260454190-580.jpg?w=580&amp;ssl=1 580w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>First, a short (1000 words) primer on <a href=\"http:\/\/www.newyorker.com\/online\/blogs\/comment\/2014\/06\/isis-savage-strategy-in-iraq.html\">how we got here<\/a>. \u00a0Who are the leaders of ISIS? \u00a0How are they related to Al Qaeda? \u00a0What are they up to? \u00a0Etc. \u00a0Definitely worth three minutes of your time.<\/p>\n<p>Then, some reminders from James Fallows of folks who got things spectacularly wrong 12 years ago and yet are foolishly being looked to again for supposed wise counsel. \u00a0And many pointers to more circumspect thinking.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong><a id=\"+DL6Qi81rM9K4FoeBp8VAFoGtgRjaNz6LCV7xCssJTU=_146a708fe8d:630c:41b23718_main_title\" class=\"title read\" style=\"font-weight: bold; color: #888888;\" title=\"'The Past Is Never Dead,' Bill Faulkner Told Us\u2014but He Didn't Know About the Iraq War\" href=\"http:\/\/feedproxy.google.com\/~r\/JamesFallows\/~3\/Waou5ixODGU\/story01.htm\" target=\"_blank\" data-inlineentryid=\"+DL6Qi81rM9K4FoeBp8VAFoGtgRjaNz6LCV7xCssJTU=_146a708fe8d:630c:41b23718\" data-navigation=\"inline\">&#8216;The Past Is Never Dead,&#8217; Bill Faulkner Told Us\u2014but He Didn&#8217;t Know About the Iraq War<\/a><\/strong><\/li>\n<li><strong><a id=\"+DL6Qi81rM9K4FoeBp8VAFoGtgRjaNz6LCV7xCssJTU=_146ad541d48:defe9b:5f32fcaa_main_title\" class=\"title read\" style=\"color: #888888;\" title=\"The Graciousness and Dignity of Richard B. 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Cheney<\/a><\/strong><\/li>\n<li><strong><a id=\"+DL6Qi81rM9K4FoeBp8VAFoGtgRjaNz6LCV7xCssJTU=_146ab7ac5fd:d972f:41b23718_main_title\" class=\"title read\" style=\"font-weight: bold; color: #888888;\" title=\"What's Worth Reading About Iraq\" href=\"http:\/\/feedproxy.google.com\/~r\/JamesFallows\/~3\/m41YelCtTCI\/story01.htm\" target=\"_blank\" data-inlineentryid=\"+DL6Qi81rM9K4FoeBp8VAFoGtgRjaNz6LCV7xCssJTU=_146ab7ac5fd:d972f:41b23718\" data-navigation=\"inline\">What&#8217;s Worth Reading About Iraq<\/a><\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<!-- sktbuilder starter --><script type=\"text\/javascript\" src=\"https:\/\/napervilledemocrats.org\/ntdo\/wp-content\/plugins\/skt-builder\/sktbuilder\/sktbuilder-frontend-starter.js\"><\/script><script type=\"text\/javascript\" src=\"https:\/\/napervilledemocrats.org\/ntdo\/wp-content\/plugins\/skt-builder\/sktbuilder-wordpress-driver.js\"><\/script><script type=\"text\/javascript\"> var starter = new SktbuilderStarter({\"mode\": \"prod\", \"skip\":[\"jquery\",\"underscore\",\"backbone\"],\"sktbuilderUrl\": \"https:\/\/napervilledemocrats.org\/ntdo\/wp-content\/plugins\/skt-builder\/sktbuilder\/\", \"driver\": new SktbuilderWordpressDriver({\"ajaxUrl\": \"https:\/\/napervilledemocrats.org\/ntdo\/wp-admin\/admin-ajax.php\", \"iframeUrl\": \"https:\/\/napervilledemocrats.org\/ntdo\/more-on-iraq-how-we-got-here-and-who-not-to-listen-to\/?sktbuilder=true\", \"pageId\": 2042,  \"nonce\": \"b05c510ff0\", \"pages\": [{\"title\":\"NTD Officers\",\"url\":\"https:\\\/\\\/napervilledemocrats.org\\\/ntdo\\\/wp-admin\\\/post.php?post=475&action=sktbuilder\"},{\"title\":\"2022 Election\",\"url\":\"https:\\\/\\\/napervilledemocrats.org\\\/ntdo\\\/wp-admin\\\/post.php?post=11490&action=sktbuilder\"}], \"page\": \"More on Iraq: How We Got Here and Who (Not) to Listen To\" }) });<\/script><!-- end sktbuilder starter -->","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Apropos of the other\u00a0day&#8217;s posting about ignoring those who have proven so worthy of being ignored, here is a little more on Iraq. 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