{"id":317,"date":"2013-01-15T13:04:00","date_gmt":"2013-01-15T18:04:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/napervilledemocrats.org\/ntdo\/?p=317"},"modified":"2013-03-08T15:37:07","modified_gmt":"2013-03-08T20:37:07","slug":"the-gun-control-debate","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/napervilledemocrats.org\/ntdo\/the-gun-control-debate\/","title":{"rendered":"The Gun Control &#8220;Debate&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Three things about the gun control &#8220;debate&#8221; we&#8217;re currently trying to have in this nation.<\/p>\n<p>First,\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com\/2013\/01\/jon-stewart-goes-after-gun-control-opponents-on-the-right.php\">this from Jon Stewart<\/a>\u00a0is still probably the best thing I&#8217;ve seen on the subject. \u00a0His summary at the end:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>Now I get it. \u00a0Now I see what\u2019s happening. \u00a0So this is what it is. Their paranoid fear of a possible dystopic future prevents us from addressing our actual dystopic present. \u00a0We can&#8217;t even begin to address 30,000 gun deaths that are actually, in reality, happening in this country every year because a few of us must remain vigilant against the rise of imaginary Hitler.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com\/2013\/01\/jon-stewart-goes-after-gun-control-opponents-on-the-right.php\">TPM: Jon Stewart Goes After Gun Control Opponents on the Right<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s the video:<\/p>\n<div>\n<div>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"http:\/\/media.mtvnservices.com\/embed\/mgid:cms:item:comedycentral.com:422699\" height=\"288\" width=\"512\" frameborder=\"0\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.thedailyshow.com\/watch\/tue-january-8-2013\/scapegoat-hunter---gun-control\">The Daily Show<\/a><\/strong><br \/>\nGet More:\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.thedailyshow.com\/full-episodes\/\">Daily Show Full Episodes<\/a>,<a href=\"http:\/\/www.indecisionforever.com\/\">Political Humor &amp; Satire Blog<\/a>,<a href=\"http:\/\/www.facebook.com\/thedailyshow\">The Daily Show on Facebook<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Second, I heard something\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.wbez.org\/programs\/afternoon-shift\">just now on the radio<\/a>\u00a0in which they listened to an extended clip of the Alex Jones rant (starts at about 7:15 in the above clip) and one of the guests started his response by remarking that he would first have to wipe the spittle off his face just from listening to it. \u00a0That made me LOL.<\/p>\n<p>Third, and more seriously, the other commenter observed how hard it is to have a real discussion around this issue because of how politicized it is. \u00a0&#8220;You have to be on one side or the other.&#8221; \u00a0Sorry, but that&#8217;s more\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.theatlantic.com\/politics\/archive\/2011\/10\/false-equivalence-reaches-onionesque-heights-but-in-a-real-paper\/246754\/\">false equivalence<\/a>. \u00a0Sounds to me like all of the yelling, all of the extremism, all of the ultimatums and absolutism, etc are coming from one side of the argument. \u00a0The attitude that the truth in any disagreement must of course be somewhere between the parties and that both are equally responsible for any impasse is so reflexive that it leaves folks unable to accurately describe the present reality in which one side\u00a0<strong>is<\/strong>\u00a0trying to solve problems and the other side is trying to have a fight.<\/p>\n<!-- sktbuilder starter --><script type=\"text\/javascript\" src=\"https:\/\/napervilledemocrats.org\/ntdo\/wp-content\/plugins\/skt-builder\/sktbuilder\/sktbuilder-frontend-starter.js\"><\/script><script type=\"text\/javascript\" src=\"https:\/\/napervilledemocrats.org\/ntdo\/wp-content\/plugins\/skt-builder\/sktbuilder-wordpress-driver.js\"><\/script><script type=\"text\/javascript\"> var starter = new SktbuilderStarter({\"mode\": \"prod\", \"skip\":[\"jquery\",\"underscore\",\"backbone\"],\"sktbuilderUrl\": \"https:\/\/napervilledemocrats.org\/ntdo\/wp-content\/plugins\/skt-builder\/sktbuilder\/\", \"driver\": new SktbuilderWordpressDriver({\"ajaxUrl\": \"https:\/\/napervilledemocrats.org\/ntdo\/wp-admin\/admin-ajax.php\", \"iframeUrl\": \"https:\/\/napervilledemocrats.org\/ntdo\/the-gun-control-debate\/?sktbuilder=true\", \"pageId\": 317,  \"nonce\": \"4d2216e7f6\", \"pages\": [{\"title\":\"NTD Officers\",\"url\":\"https:\\\/\\\/napervilledemocrats.org\\\/ntdo\\\/wp-admin\\\/post.php?post=475&action=sktbuilder\"},{\"title\":\"2022 Election\",\"url\":\"https:\\\/\\\/napervilledemocrats.org\\\/ntdo\\\/wp-admin\\\/post.php?post=11490&action=sktbuilder\"}], \"page\": \"The Gun Control \\\"Debate\\\"\" }) });<\/script><!-- end sktbuilder starter -->","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Three things about the gun control &#8220;debate&#8221; we&#8217;re currently trying to have in this nation. 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