{"id":4087,"date":"2016-09-08T12:44:59","date_gmt":"2016-09-08T17:44:59","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/napervilledemocrats.org\/ntdo\/?p=4087"},"modified":"2016-09-08T17:15:57","modified_gmt":"2016-09-08T22:15:57","slug":"on-last-nights-commander-in-chief-forum","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/napervilledemocrats.org\/ntdo\/on-last-nights-commander-in-chief-forum\/","title":{"rendered":"On Last Night&#8217;s &#8220;Commander-in-Chief&#8221; Forum"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_4090\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"http:\/\/nymag.com\/daily\/intelligencer\/2016\/09\/lauers-pathetic-interview-made-me-think-trump-can-win.html?mid=full-rss-nymag\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"4090\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/napervilledemocrats.org\/ntdo\/on-last-nights-commander-in-chief-forum\/lauer-clinton-w710-h473-2x\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/napervilledemocrats.org\/ntdo\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/lauer-clinton.w710.h473.2x.jpg?fit=1420%2C946&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1420,946\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"lauer-clinton-w710-h473-2x\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;A frightening case study in journalistic failure. Photo: Justin Sullivan&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/napervilledemocrats.org\/ntdo\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/lauer-clinton.w710.h473.2x.jpg?fit=1024%2C682&amp;ssl=1\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-4090\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-4090\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/napervilledemocrats.org\/ntdo\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/lauer-clinton.w710.h473.2x-300x200.jpg?resize=300%2C200\" alt=\"A frightening case study in journalistic failure. Photo: Justin Sullivan\" width=\"300\" height=\"200\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/napervilledemocrats.org\/ntdo\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/lauer-clinton.w710.h473.2x.jpg?resize=300%2C200&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/napervilledemocrats.org\/ntdo\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/lauer-clinton.w710.h473.2x.jpg?resize=768%2C512&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/napervilledemocrats.org\/ntdo\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/lauer-clinton.w710.h473.2x.jpg?resize=1024%2C682&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/napervilledemocrats.org\/ntdo\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/lauer-clinton.w710.h473.2x.jpg?w=1420&amp;ssl=1 1420w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-4090\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">A frightening case study in journalistic failure. Photo: Justin Sullivan<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Good notes this morning on last night&#8217;s Commander-in-Chief Forum. \u00a0The media figures from whom many or most people take\u00a0their views of the world are creating a world in which things that are not comparable are made to appear comparable.<\/p>\n<p>First, from Jonathan Chait:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<h3><a href=\"http:\/\/nymag.com\/daily\/intelligencer\/2016\/09\/lauers-pathetic-interview-made-me-think-trump-can-win.html?mid=full-rss-nymag\">Matt Lauer\u2019s Pathetic Interview of Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump Is the Scariest Thing I\u2019ve Seen in This Campaign<\/a><\/h3>\n<p>I had not taken seriously the possibility that Donald Trump could win the presidency until I saw Matt Lauer host an hour-long interview with the two major-party candidates. Lauer\u2019s performance was not merely a failure, it was horrifying and shocking. The shock, for me, was the realization that most Americans inhabit a very different news environment than professional journalists. I not only consume a lot of news, since it\u2019s my job, I also tend to focus on elite print-news sources. <span style=\"color: #800080;\"><strong>Most voters, and all the more so undecided voters, subsist on a news diet supplied by the likes of Matt Lauer. And the reality transmitted to them from Lauer matches the reality of the polls, which is a world in which Clinton and Trump are equivalently flawed.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>Lauer focused a third of his questioning time on Clinton\u2019s private email server&#8230;.<\/p>\n<p>&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>&#8230;The impression an uninformed or even moderately informed viewer would receive from this interview is that the email issue represents a sinister crime, perhaps completely disqualifying from office, rather than an unjustifiable but routine act of government non-transparency.<\/p>\n<p>The email exchange would not by itself be so alarming except when viewed in juxtaposition with Lauer\u2019s hapless interview of Trump. Trump began the interview by boldly insisting, \u201cI was totally against the war in Iraq. You can look at <i>Esquire<\/i> magazine from 2004. You can look at before that.\u201d This is a lie. Trump has been quoted supporting the invasion <a href=\"https:\/\/www.buzzfeed.com\/christophermassie\/a-guide-to-donald-trump-early-flip-flops-on-the-iraq-war?utm_term=.taaAZZwAr#.dbePJJBPL\" target=\"_blank\">beforehand and even afterward<\/a>. &#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Trump went on to make a series of wild and dangerous statements. He praised Russian President Vladimir Putin as a strong, effective, and popular leader. Lauer did press him on this point, and when he did, Trump offered the astonishing rebuttal, saying President Obama had done equivalently brutish things. Lauer did not press Trump on his claim that the president of the United States behaves in a fundamentally similar way to a dictator who imprisons and kills political critics and journalists. Trump likewise reiterated his belief that \u201cto the victor go the spoils\u201d is the proper basis for American foreign policy, specifically with regard to his long-standing lament that the United States failed to steal Iraq\u2019s oil after the 2003 invasion.<\/p>\n<p>&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Both of these beliefs stun and appall foreign-policy experts in both parties, as readers of the Washington <i>Post<\/i> or the New York <i>Times<\/i> know. But the average undecided voter isn\u2019t reading those newspapers. <span style=\"color: #800080;\"><strong>The average undecided voter is getting snippets of news from television personalities like Lauer, who are failing to convey the fact that the election pits a normal politician with normal political failings against an ignorant, bigoted, pathologically dishonest authoritarian.<\/strong><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>And second, from James Fallows:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<h3><a href=\"http:\/\/www.theatlantic.com\/notes\/2016\/09\/trump-time-capsule-96-putin-has-an-82-percent-approval-rating\/499100\/?utm_source=feed\">Trump Time Capsule #96: \u2018Putin Has an 82 Percent Approval Rating!\u2019<\/a><\/h3>\n<p>I\u2019ve just now watched the hour-long <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nbcnews.com\/storyline\/commander-in-chief-forum\">\u201cCommander-in-Chief Forum\u201d<\/a> on NBC, moderated by Matt Lauer. Three points that deserve note for the record:<\/p>\n<p>1. <em>Iraq. <\/em>Donald Trump led off by claiming, <strong>falsely<\/strong>, that he opposed the war in Iraq before it began, and that this is an important sign of his good judgment:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.theatlantic.com\/notes\/2016\/09\/trump-time-capsule-96-putin-has-an-82-percent-approval-rating\/499100\/?utm_source=feed\">&lt;read details in the original&gt;<\/a><\/p>\n<p>2. <em>Russia<\/em>. The exchange between Lauer and Trump about Vladimir Putin seemed even more jaw-dropping when seen on TV than it reads in print.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.theatlantic.com\/notes\/2016\/09\/trump-time-capsule-96-putin-has-an-82-percent-approval-rating\/499100\/?utm_source=feed\">&#8230;&lt;quotations from the interview&gt;&#8230;<\/a><\/p>\n<p>What is unprecedented here: a presidential nominee <em>favorably<\/em> comparing the autocratic leader of an increasingly aggressive and problematic power to the\u00a0<em>current commander in chief<\/em> of the United States. Here\u2019s why I\u2019m acutely aware that this sort of thing just is not done:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.theatlantic.com\/notes\/2016\/09\/trump-time-capsule-96-putin-has-an-82-percent-approval-rating\/499100\/?utm_source=feed\">&lt;read more details in the original&gt;<\/a><\/p>\n<p>3. <em>Intelligence briefings<\/em>. Remember the concern, when Donald Trump began getting classified briefings, that he would blurt out or misuse information he heard there?<\/p>\n<p>How do his briefers feel after hearing this?<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.theatlantic.com\/notes\/2016\/09\/trump-time-capsule-96-putin-has-an-82-percent-approval-rating\/499100\/?utm_source=feed\">&lt;again, details in the original, in which DT either betrays\u00a0the confidentiality of the briefing or lies about what he was told&gt;<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>UPDATE: 9\/8<\/strong>: More on the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.theatlantic.com\/notes\/2016\/09\/trump-time-capsule-98-the-classified-briefing\/499190\/?utm_source=feed\">unprecedented inappropriateness of Trump&#8217;s use of the classified Intelligence Briefings here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<!-- sktbuilder starter --><script type=\"text\/javascript\" src=\"https:\/\/napervilledemocrats.org\/ntdo\/wp-content\/plugins\/skt-builder\/sktbuilder\/sktbuilder-frontend-starter.js\"><\/script><script type=\"text\/javascript\" src=\"https:\/\/napervilledemocrats.org\/ntdo\/wp-content\/plugins\/skt-builder\/sktbuilder-wordpress-driver.js\"><\/script><script type=\"text\/javascript\"> var starter = new SktbuilderStarter({\"mode\": \"prod\", \"skip\":[\"jquery\",\"underscore\",\"backbone\"],\"sktbuilderUrl\": \"https:\/\/napervilledemocrats.org\/ntdo\/wp-content\/plugins\/skt-builder\/sktbuilder\/\", \"driver\": new SktbuilderWordpressDriver({\"ajaxUrl\": \"https:\/\/napervilledemocrats.org\/ntdo\/wp-admin\/admin-ajax.php\", \"iframeUrl\": \"https:\/\/napervilledemocrats.org\/ntdo\/on-last-nights-commander-in-chief-forum\/?sktbuilder=true\", \"pageId\": 4087,  \"nonce\": \"d03d089818\", \"pages\": [{\"title\":\"NTD Officers\",\"url\":\"https:\\\/\\\/napervilledemocrats.org\\\/ntdo\\\/wp-admin\\\/post.php?post=475&action=sktbuilder\"},{\"title\":\"2022 Election\",\"url\":\"https:\\\/\\\/napervilledemocrats.org\\\/ntdo\\\/wp-admin\\\/post.php?post=11490&action=sktbuilder\"}], \"page\": \"On Last Night\\'s \\\"Commander-in-Chief\\\" Forum\" }) });<\/script><!-- end sktbuilder starter -->","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Good notes this morning on last night&#8217;s Commander-in-Chief Forum. \u00a0The media figures from whom many or most people take\u00a0their views of the world are creating a world in which things<br \/><a class=\"moretag\" href=\"https:\/\/napervilledemocrats.org\/ntdo\/on-last-nights-commander-in-chief-forum\/\">+ Read More<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":4090,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_feature_clip_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[1],"tags":[32,50,169,171],"class_list":["post-4087","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-uncategorized","tag-chait","tag-fallows","tag-hillary-clinton","tag-trump"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/napervilledemocrats.org\/ntdo\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/lauer-clinton.w710.h473.2x.jpg?fit=1420%2C946&ssl=1","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p2BzCg-13V","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/napervilledemocrats.org\/ntdo\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4087","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/napervilledemocrats.org\/ntdo\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/napervilledemocrats.org\/ntdo\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/napervilledemocrats.org\/ntdo\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/napervilledemocrats.org\/ntdo\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=4087"}],"version-history":[{"count":8,"href":"https:\/\/napervilledemocrats.org\/ntdo\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4087\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":4098,"href":"https:\/\/napervilledemocrats.org\/ntdo\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4087\/revisions\/4098"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/napervilledemocrats.org\/ntdo\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/4090"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/napervilledemocrats.org\/ntdo\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=4087"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/napervilledemocrats.org\/ntdo\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=4087"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/napervilledemocrats.org\/ntdo\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=4087"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}