{"id":689,"date":"2013-03-04T14:09:48","date_gmt":"2013-03-04T19:09:48","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/napervilledemocrats.org\/ntdo\/?p=689"},"modified":"2013-03-08T15:17:50","modified_gmt":"2013-03-08T20:17:50","slug":"theres-no-deal-to-be-made-with-absolutist-tea-party-republicans","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/napervilledemocrats.org\/ntdo\/theres-no-deal-to-be-made-with-absolutist-tea-party-republicans\/","title":{"rendered":"There&#8217;s No Deal to Be Made With Absolutist Tea Party Republicans"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright\" style=\"margin: 3px;\" alt=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.washingtonpost.com\/blogs\/wonkblog\/files\/2012\/12\/Obama_Fiscal_Cliff-0e5c7-588-copy-1024x682.jpg?resize=368%2C245\" width=\"368\" height=\"245\" \/>Interesting turnabout by Ezra Klein over the last few days. \u00a0On Friday he documented <a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/blogs\/wonkblog\/wp\/2013\/03\/01\/what-we-have-here-is-a-failure-to-communicate\/\">how little some GOP Congressmen know about what Obama has been offering<\/a>\u00a0towards averting the sequester, and wondered if better communication might go a long way towards solving some of the problems we&#8217;ve been wrestling with. \u00a0Others (e.g., <a href=\"http:\/\/nymag.com\/daily\/intelligencer\/2013\/03\/would-teaching-republicans-about-obama-help.html\">Jonathan Chait<\/a>) said (and I&#8217;m paraphrasing very loosely), &#8220;Nope. \u00a0They&#8217;ll just find some other reason to oppose a deal.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Then Klein had an experience that convinced him that Chait is right. \u00a0Ezra gives us the discouraging play-by-play here (&#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/blogs\/wonkblog\/wp\/2013\/03\/02\/this-is-why-obama-cant-make-a-deal-with-republicans\">This is why Obama can\u2019t make a deal with Republicans<\/a>&#8220;). \u00a0Long story short, every time a demand was shown to have been met, the GOP player in question moved the goal line, raising some new objection. \u00a0Just as Chait had predicted. \u00a0Read the details in <a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/blogs\/wonkblog\/wp\/2013\/03\/02\/this-is-why-obama-cant-make-a-deal-with-republicans\">Ezra&#8217;s post<\/a>, but here&#8217;s his bottom line (<strong>emphasis added<\/strong>):<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8230;it\u2019s unpopular for Republicans to simply say they won\u2019t agree to any compromise and there\u2019s no deal to be had \u2014 particularly since taxing the wealthy is more popular than cutting entitlements, and so their position is less popular than Obama\u2019s. That\u2019s made it important for Republicans to prove that it\u2019s the president who is somehow holding up a deal.<\/p>\n<p>This had led to a lot of Republicans fanning out to explain what the president should be offering if he was serious about making a deal. Then, when it turns out that the president did offer those items, there\u2019s more furious hand-waving about how no, actually, <em>this<\/em> is what the president needs to offer to make a deal. Then, when it turns out he\u2019s offered most of that, too, the hand-waving stops and the truth comes out: <strong>Republicans won\u2019t make a deal that includes further taxes, they just want to get the White House to implement their agenda in return for nothing<\/strong>. Luckily for them, most of the time, the conversation doesn\u2019t get that far, and the initial comments that the president needs to \u201cget serious\u201d on entitlements is met with sage nods.<\/p>\n<p>&#8230; There\u2019s no deal even if Obama agrees to major Republican demands on entitlements. <strong>There\u2019s no deal because Republicans don\u2019t want to make a deal that includes taxes, no matter what they get in return for it<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>The interesting question is whether the possibility of a government shutdown, a debt-ceiling breach or simply the pressure of the sequester\u2019s cuts will, in the coming months, break one side or the other. But <strong>as long as the GOP\u2019s position is they won\u2019t compromise, there\u2019s not going to be a compromise<\/strong>.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Meanwhile, we&#8217;re in to the sequester&#8217;s cuts, whose pain will be felt most by (surprise!) <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2013\/03\/04\/us\/politics\/poor-face-most-pain-as-automatic-budget-cuts-take-effect.html\">those who can least bear the pain<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>And once again I have to ask, what level of indecency will it take to get decent people to turn their backs on the GOP?<\/p>\n<!-- sktbuilder starter --><script type=\"text\/javascript\" src=\"https:\/\/napervilledemocrats.org\/ntdo\/wp-content\/plugins\/skt-builder\/sktbuilder\/sktbuilder-frontend-starter.js\"><\/script><script type=\"text\/javascript\" src=\"https:\/\/napervilledemocrats.org\/ntdo\/wp-content\/plugins\/skt-builder\/sktbuilder-wordpress-driver.js\"><\/script><script type=\"text\/javascript\"> var starter = new SktbuilderStarter({\"mode\": \"prod\", \"skip\":[\"jquery\",\"underscore\",\"backbone\"],\"sktbuilderUrl\": \"https:\/\/napervilledemocrats.org\/ntdo\/wp-content\/plugins\/skt-builder\/sktbuilder\/\", \"driver\": new SktbuilderWordpressDriver({\"ajaxUrl\": \"https:\/\/napervilledemocrats.org\/ntdo\/wp-admin\/admin-ajax.php\", \"iframeUrl\": \"https:\/\/napervilledemocrats.org\/ntdo\/theres-no-deal-to-be-made-with-absolutist-tea-party-republicans\/?sktbuilder=true\", \"pageId\": 689,  \"nonce\": \"c10bdfdd4c\", \"pages\": [{\"title\":\"NTD Officers\",\"url\":\"https:\\\/\\\/napervilledemocrats.org\\\/ntdo\\\/wp-admin\\\/post.php?post=475&action=sktbuilder\"},{\"title\":\"2022 Election\",\"url\":\"https:\\\/\\\/napervilledemocrats.org\\\/ntdo\\\/wp-admin\\\/post.php?post=11490&action=sktbuilder\"}], \"page\": \"There\\'s No Deal to Be Made With Absolutist Tea Party Republicans\" }) });<\/script><!-- end sktbuilder starter -->","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Interesting turnabout by Ezra Klein over the last few days. \u00a0On Friday he documented how little some GOP Congressmen know about what Obama has been offering\u00a0towards averting the sequester, and<br \/><a class=\"moretag\" href=\"https:\/\/napervilledemocrats.org\/ntdo\/theres-no-deal-to-be-made-with-absolutist-tea-party-republicans\/\">+ Read More<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":693,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[1],"tags":[22,24,12,25,23],"class_list":["post-689","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-uncategorized","tag-economy-2","tag-extremist-gop-2","tag-obama","tag-sequester","tag-tea-party"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/napervilledemocrats.org\/ntdo\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/Obama_Fiscal_Cliff-0e5c7-588-copy-1024x682.jpg?fit=1024%2C682&ssl=1","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p2BzCg-b7","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/napervilledemocrats.org\/ntdo\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/689","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/napervilledemocrats.org\/ntdo\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/napervilledemocrats.org\/ntdo\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/napervilledemocrats.org\/ntdo\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/napervilledemocrats.org\/ntdo\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=689"}],"version-history":[{"count":7,"href":"https:\/\/napervilledemocrats.org\/ntdo\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/689\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":703,"href":"https:\/\/napervilledemocrats.org\/ntdo\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/689\/revisions\/703"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/napervilledemocrats.org\/ntdo\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/693"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/napervilledemocrats.org\/ntdo\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=689"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/napervilledemocrats.org\/ntdo\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=689"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/napervilledemocrats.org\/ntdo\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=689"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}